Teen Gothic

There was a thread posted today from someone asking if goths listen to Kiss that reminded me of an incident at a club I was DJing at in the early 10s.

There was a regular who kept pestering me to play Kiss at a mixed genre goth club. I always said no. So they started pestering the manager too who backed me up.

We eventually got sick of them asking every event so the manager and I hatched a plan. I was going to play Kiss but not how they expected it. I found karaoke track and recorded my own vocals. I turned the song into a diss track and made it about pee and scat fetishism (instead of love and lust) including vomit and fart solos. We got our photographer in on it too and he filmed it all.

I have that video right here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AWcsUN2fAU

The Kiss requester took the joke well but the club owner was not happy as they were unaware of what we were doing but they were fine with it after we explained why and people in general enjoyed the joke.

They never requested Kiss again. And that is the moral of the story, be careful what you wish for from a DJ who is well known for also having a troll DJ persona. Don't get mad, get even and have a laugh in the process.

Now back to our regular weekly gripes and wrath.

That's right, it is that time of the week again. When all the moody goths can get things off their chests and complain about life being unfair. Because life is unfair always and especially to you. We all have our own demons to battle (or kiss – you do you) and all our demons seem worse than everyone else's because everyone is me, me, me as we are all single entities in this big bad place we call the universe. But you didn't come here for a philosophical lecture – and a bad one at that. No, you are here to gripe, complain and tell stories about negative stuff that happened for catharsis and entertainment.

Or you can complain about a joke being made by me IRL on people who ironically are people who are complained about in this weekly thread by someone nearly every week because they did something to misrepresent goth. And the people in question I joked with IRL got the joke better than so many people in here did. But I don't blame you, you saw a chance to tear me down and went for it. Not the first time people have tried and won't be the last.

Enough about me, let's hear from you.

I am about to step into enemy territory tonight so I'll keep it brief. I'm DJing at an event called Egirl Nexus. Elitist Joe is putting in an appearance to force a little goth music onto them, they can't dodge it now! MUAHAHAHAHAAAA!

So yeah, bat gripes, goth grindings, spider sneers, you know the deal.

You know what annoys me?

When someone asks for something, you warn them it might make them mad and no one is forcing them to do anything. Then they get mad and act like you are forcing them. Yeah, I'm talking about the problematic band list. Like if you see a band is heavily fascist and decide your fun is more important than oppressing people based on skin colour and then you get judged for your decision that is on you. Freedom of choice doesn't give you freedom of consequences.

Or when people complain that everyone thinks they are an expert on goth when they have no clue and proceeds to act the same about a different subculture in which they have no part or deep knowledge. There is nothing wrong with not knowing everything or deferring to experts who know their stuff. But that seems to be an internet problem as a whole.

I don't know… maybe we should try tap dancing? It couldn't hurt.

People don't read anymore. I'm not talking about books or magazine/news articles (they don't read any of those either, why do that when a video can tell you stuff), I'm talking about things like basic instructions.

Take r/goth for example. The rules are clearly posted and if we have to remove a post we tell you why. People come storming into modmail or angery posting without reading why all the time. As a case in point we had a lot of Fashion Friday posts this week and most (if not all) will be culled. I am expecting a few who haven't read the rules or the removal reason to angery storm somewhere as most are from new people and lurkers.

And then there is post flairs. Sometimes it feels like the only flairs that exist are "Goth Club" and "Old School '80s" because people don't care enough to flair their posts right. Sure it may seem officious and anal retentive but there is method to it. You can search using the flairs so having things in the right flairs means your posts can be found. And you want to be heard and your post seen, otherwise why even post it?

So what's got you down/mad/annoyed/angery/enraged this week? Goth related or not it's all good here. But the goth stuff does get more attention as it should. Pro tip there.

I've been asked to step in as our usual host is not here…

So get whatever you need to off your chest, whether that's someone labelling AC/DC "goth" or something not goth related at all…

Sisters of mercy is coming HALF AN HOUR AWAY FROM ME however… I'm 16 and my mom would never let me go alone. I have no goth friends or Friends that are willing to just chaperone me. I'm so sad. I'm sure future opportunities will come up but this is so unfortunate

Sisters of Mercy are touring USA. You'd think this would be a good thing, yes? But noooo, people are complaining because they aren't the band they used to be, use a hell of a lot of smoke machine, Andy can't sing as well as he used to and they play music in a more (pardon the pun) hard rock/Vision Thing style.

Yet there are also people saying yay because they are touring USA and it is an opportunity they will likely never get again. Ironically they have been to Australia 3 times in the past 10 years (once with a music festival, a proper tour in 2019 and again in 2022) where most bands tour USA a lot and never come here.

I saw them twice in 2019 and loved both shows. Then again I like Vision Thing era though my favourite Sisters era would be the pre-album singles/EPs "Some Girls Wander By Mistake" era. And they are a bucket list band for me. That said, I went into it having heard all the people poo pooing them so I wouldn't have been surprised if they were terrible. Hell few bands maintain their prime when they have been around 40 years, especially with numerous line up changes. But even if I thought they were bad it still would have been worth it.

Part of it could also be certain parts of the world are spoiled for choice. So given the high quality they are used to Sisters could very well have been under par. Where here in Adelaide we are more likely to take what we can get because few come here. I compare this to places like Melbourne too where most bands tour thinking an Australian tour is Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and maybe tack on Auckland or Wellington in New Zealand too. Let alone comparing to larger cities that constantly see international acts like London, New York, Los Angeles or Berlin.

So go or do not go. But judge by what you see, what you like and not by what other people say. Make up your own mind if Sisters are worth seeing or not by how big a fan you are and if you can afford it.

So… how about that coronation? I haven't watched it and mostly avoided the memes by simply being busy IRL but it was a thing. We could argue about the waste of money of it all or whether the royals are good or not. But there is nothing goth related in that.

Anyway… if you feel the need to express your feelings about it you can do that here. Or about anything else – goth related or not. For the people new to Unofficial Seething Sunday this weekly thread is like a release valve to blow off some steam.

(For the record I am not a fan of the royal family and believe Australia should break away from the Commonwealth and become a republic. But that won't happen as we enjoy kicking everyone's butts at the Commonwealth Games too much and we have too many old money British royalist politicians)

I try to come up with something interesting and creative in the description posts for Unofficial Seething Sunday but sometimes I draw blank. Today is a blank day. Been sleeping a lot and brain function isn't far off auto-pilot right now. I guess I really needed the rest today.

Goth gothy goth goth goth. There's you're goth relevance too. Not that I need it.

Boo.